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Plagiarism [Jan. 4th, 2008|09:50 am]
Preserving Thamiris' LJ and memory


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There has been an incident of plagiarism of a story by Tham,

In Principio.

This person has also been plagiarizing other entries from Tham's journal. The incident was reported to this community by bofoddity. If you read the entry, it's clear that SV fen are already out in force to defend.

If anyone knows if there is a way to bar this individual from further access to Tham's LJ, please point us in the right direction. Is this grounds for contacting the Abuse Prevention Team? and if so, will they do anything?

[User Picture]From: mecurtin
2008-01-04 03:01 pm (UTC)

IP info

The link is messed up.

thelana has received comments from him, and says:

"For what it's worth, boyan_fraser posted in my journal and I have IP tracking on. It lists his IP as ip-address traces him to Belgrad, Serbia

IP address [?]: Copy [Whois]
IP address country: ip address flag n/a
IP address state: n/a
IP address city: Belgrade
IP address latitude: 44.818600
IP address longitude: 20.468100
ISP of this IP [?]: Srpske Kablovske mreze - Serbia BroadBand (SBB) D.
Proxy: None / Highly Anonymous [Proxychecker]
Organization: IP Range for cable modem customers
Host of this IP: [?]: cable-89-216-183-201.dynamic.sbb.co.yu [Whois]"

Keep your eyes open for sockpuppets.
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[User Picture]From: acampbell
2008-01-04 06:20 pm (UTC)

Re: IP info

Thanks, Mary Ellen.
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[User Picture]From: mercymydarling
2008-01-04 03:10 pm (UTC)
I don't know how to keep him away, but I am so full of rage over this. Fic and entries and comments? That's just... outrageously unfair in any case, but so very wrong and upsetting now. :(
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[User Picture]From: teenygozer
2008-01-04 03:33 pm (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that you need to fix your link to the story; this is what you have:


It seems to have doubled up.
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[User Picture]From: acampbell
2008-01-04 06:20 pm (UTC)
I fixed it, but it appears the entry has been locked now. Big surprise. :)
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[User Picture]From: dreamyraynbo
2008-01-04 03:33 pm (UTC)
Yes, this person needs to be reported. Repeatedly. That's beyond appalling. I can't believe I'm actually finding a use for the flagging option...
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[User Picture]From: trepkos
2008-01-04 04:11 pm (UTC)
Wow, that's low.
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From: twistedchick
2008-01-04 04:39 pm (UTC)
I mentioned (as in ranted) about this to my husband, who suggested that the community write a letter to the internet service provider who is hosting this person, as it would result in an automatic takedown of his account. When I mentioned that it was a Serbian providerr, he said it still might be worth trying but the chance of success would be much less.

I wish I could suggest something entirely effective, but this is a bit out of my area of knowledge. I looked back at his journal, and everything in it except the userpics and perhaps the odd birthday notice appears to have been lifted from Tham's work. It makes me sick.
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[User Picture]From: thelana
2008-01-04 05:54 pm (UTC)
Since they also took personal entries from thamiris, maybe one could claim something like stalking or imposterism rather than or in addition to plagiarism?
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[User Picture]From: elgraves
2008-01-04 06:24 pm (UTC)
He also stole the bunny poem. I love that bunny poem. I was going to give you the url but it's no longer publicly available. I wish I took a screen cap.
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[User Picture]From: sealwhiskers
2008-01-04 06:25 pm (UTC)
Similar cases have been reported to LJ abuse team, and this is very worthy of a report. You have the IP - the least LJ can do is to delete that journal. A friend of mine was plagiarized last year (poems and whole journal entries) and that journal was deleted.
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[User Picture]From: sealwhiskers
2008-01-04 06:27 pm (UTC)
Also, you guys, if you went and ranted in that journal, you should always take screen caps, because plagiarists and other offenders are often swift with locking or deleting what they wrote (I learned this the hard way from moderating a poetry writing community). So think before you act if you want to get to the bottom of this.
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From: mattador
2008-01-04 06:34 pm (UTC)
The Lj Abuse team cannot act unless it is reported by a member of her family- and she didn't want her family knowing about her LJ. Likewise, this guy is friendslocking his entire journal.


is his email address.
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[User Picture]From: bluster
2008-01-04 06:43 pm (UTC)
He has started to go back and f'lock many of the plagiarized entries. Not deleting, mind you...simply locking them away. The abuse team was notified but they indicated that only a family member would be able to lodge a complaint.
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[User Picture]From: sealwhiskers
2008-01-04 06:54 pm (UTC)
There is another thing we can do. When my friend was plagiarized last year, we, a couple of her friends wrote to every single person on the plagiarist's friends list and told them, in a standardized message what that journal was about.

So we could do that, and also write to all of the communities that boyan_fraser is in. It's a good way of smoking out the rat, because most writing people fear and detest a plagiarist and impostor.
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From: ext_76304
2008-01-05 12:27 am (UTC)
I'm in disgust.

~Your friend, LL.
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[User Picture]From: the-willow.insanejournal.com
2008-01-06 02:46 am (UTC)

Just mad, angry grr. I'd drifted away from SV and from following and reading Tham, but she was one of the first people I 'met' in fandom who opened my eyes to it as a larger world. She made me think.

The thing that burns me the most about this is that more than one person I knew and cared about on lj died last year or year before and this whole thing now has me missing them all terribly more than usual and worrying about some other idiot doing something like this. Previously the only thing upsetting me was the thought that LJ in it's great Strikethrough and Boldthrough might suspend/delete the journals of those passed friends.

Now I find out that LJ's policies are making them out to be even more craptastic than previously thought.
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